Throughout our season-long exploration of the divine and its many expressions, Reverend Sarah and Reverend Peggy have often returned to the idea that our vision of the divine substantially affects how we move in the world. On today's episode, the conversation picks up the theme of "process theology" from last week's show and moves into a discussion of humans and the divine as co-creators. From making art to planting gardens to cooking meals for family and friends, humans are constantly creating (and destroying) our own world. What lessons about the divine does this insight hold? To open this episode, Reverend Sarah references the poem "The Shield of Achilles" by W.H. Auden. You can read the poem in full here: https://poets.org/poem/shield-achilles. This episode also discusses the art and spiritual practice of mandala-making. This video depicts the construction and destruction of a mandala and may be of interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10084L3Pqsc. Hope & Heresy is also available on YouTube at youtube.com/c/ccnyuu. Write back to us at podcast@ccny.org and if you like the show and its message, please consider helping us reach more people by liking, subscribing, or leaving a review or comment.